im not much of a talker but here it goes

like the topic says im not much of a talker

i would say what made me find out about these forums is a unique blend of child abuse, several traumas and lies told by the society(perfect recipe for a fucked up life)

i would like to emphasize on child abuse part because everything was triggered because of this

my father and mother was divorced when i was 6 and my father married a second time to some sheiks daughter(as in islamic leader) she was wearing headscarf and she seem like a genuine muslim little did i know that this woman in her 40ies was a flaming feminist that hated my guts she made the life hell for me for 1 year

1 year only because after that year i quickly got back to my mom

i guess being a muslim and even being a sheiks daughter cant supress the nature of women

oh and she divorced my father after 6 months of me leaving them (they were together for 5 years ) i guess i was her stress ball when she got angry at my father after i left she started having fights with my dad and so they divorced this all was when i was 14

so highschool started girls started becoming sluts they were getting fucked in the ass so their hymen would be intact when they got married(of course only men getting sex was alphas)

or they were getting hymen repair surgeries left and right

and you know the same old bullshit alpha lays beta pays

this is true even for a society like turkey after seeing these things i think its even same in afghanistan   

but this was the most traumatizing for me because i was a firm believer of islam

my father was an imam

and islam thought us women were angels who never did no wrong and they are all asexual creatures who only have sex because bad men make them to and women werent promiscious at all

kind of like what women were in 50ies before contraception was found

so when i saw what women really were like and saw islam buttfucking guillible men into beta cuckoldhood i said fuck all of you and became a mgtow and an atheist

the most i feel sorry about all this is that i was forcibly circumsized when i was 11 because god told so

what a joke

other stats : 19 years old,istanbul,turkey,shy,beta,chubby

you can ask me about muslim girls tricks like how they take in the ass instead of pussy so their hymen wouldnt break i have lots to teach you   (even someone else i cant remember the name found this out about muslim girls in mgtow forums a couple of months back)

oh i forgot to mention my relationships with women

basicly i didnt had any relations until now

until i was 14 i was thought not to have any relations with women because even flirting was a sin according to islam (i can even find fetvas about this for you)

then i started waking up little by little when i got to highschool and said to myself this isnt how it is people date and thats the normal thing i havent got to this conclusion until i was in 10th grade until then i was living a very closed life to outside world

but i was going to an all male vocational school studying web desing and was probably the most beta man you ever seen

ive never been to a night club and ive never been out drinking but maybe i would try that one day

since then my only relationships with women happened in the istanbul brothel and few escorts

if any of you guys want to come and fuck here im your guide

escorts are dirt cheap 50 dollars for a quick suck'n fuck but the quality isnt that high (exchange rates are fucked up right now so be quick:D)

Interesting to have had intro's discussing the Chinese, Japanese and now Islamic element, so it's not just western guys who are getting screwed by feminism, we're all getting our own local flavour.

Thanks...err...Fatty (not very flattering username, but never the less)

Welcome to MGTOW!

Hi Fatty, good to have you here. It´s interesting to see that Turkey faces the same problems like western countries.

And I think you are right: Men in western societies allowed women to get the same rights, which is absolutely ok. But they didn´t stop them when it became obvious that it was all about privileges and not about equal rights. And now, most men in western societies are too afraid of women and too afraid to be politically incorrect to call women out on their bullshit.

I hope that a new generation of men will end this and the internet if a great tool to spread ideas and exchange experiences with other men. But when I look around, I am not too optimistic. Too many men are so brainwashed and act like pets for women, eager to please every desire. (I was like that too in the past but I learned from experience, so there is always hope. If I can learn, any man can learn.)

fatty wrote:like the topic says im not much of a talker

i would say what made me find out about these forums is a unique blend of child abuse, several traumas and lies told by the society(perfect recipe for a fucked up life)

i would like to emphasize on child abuse part because everything was triggered because of this

my father and mother was divorced when i was 6 and my father married a second time to some sheiks daughter(as in islamic leader) she was wearing headscarf and she seem like a genuine muslim little did i know that this woman in her 40ies was a flaming feminist that hated my guts she made the life hell for me for 1 year

1 year only because after that year i quickly got back to my mom

i guess being a muslim and even being a sheiks daughter cant supress the nature of women

oh and she divorced my father after 6 months of me leaving them (they were together for 5 years ) i guess i was her stress ball when she got angry at my father after i left she started having fights with my dad and so they divorced this all was when i was 14

so highschool started girls started becoming sluts they were getting fucked in the ass so their hymen would be intact when they got married(of course only men getting sex was alphas)

or they were getting hymen repair surgeries left and right

and you know the same old bullshit alpha lays beta pays

this is true even for a society like turkey after seeing these things i think its even same in afghanistan   

but this was the most traumatizing for me because i was a firm believer of islam

my father was an imam

and islam thought us women were angels who never did no wrong and they are all asexual creatures who only have sex because bad men make them to and women werent promiscious at all

kind of like what women were in 50ies before contraception was found

so when i saw what women really were like and saw islam buttfucking guillible men into beta cuckoldhood i said fuck all of you and became a mgtow and an atheist

the most i feel sorry about all this is that i was forcibly circumsized when i was 11 because god told so

what a joke

other stats : 19 years old,istanbul,turkey,shy,beta,chubby

you can ask me about muslim girls tricks like how they take in the ass instead of pussy so their hymen wouldnt break i have lots to teach you   (even someone else i cant remember the name found this out about muslim girls in mgtow forums a couple of months back)

Emphasized above. It's not just Islam or Christianity or any part of the world that is like this, men are taught blue pill bull shit all over the world about women. Lurkers take note, you are not alone.

Welcome, great intro, glad to have you here!

Man, that was interesting. Great Intro, love the avatar.

Welcome to the forum!

oh by the way i dont want to sound too racist or western-phobic or anything i dont have anything against west but i think westerners are the main cause of the problems men face these days

the feminist idea didnt originated in islamic countries or japan and china

it originated in west and our societies thinking its beneficial to them adopted western ideals

I don't think it started here either. It definitely flourished here though. I think it goes back to the late 60's here, and was part of the socialism and Marxism that sprouted during the "age of free love". We've had socialism/Marxism here for many, many years, but I think what took off in the 60's here was somewhat of a plan sprung by our enemies at the time to destabilize our culture.

It worked.

Well, take that into account and the fact that people now have more time to think than they used too. Two generations ago people were to busy trying to survive by working hard in the fields, and didn't have as much time for mental masturbation.

Seems like now almost everyone has gone blind

mr.anonymous wrote:I think it goes back to the late 60's here, and was part of the socialism and Marxism that sprouted during the "age of free love". We've had socialism/Marxism here for many, many years, but I think what took off in the 60's here was somewhat of a plan sprung by our enemies at the time to destabilize our culture.

I think it goes back even further...about 100 years the suffragettes were the first real "womans movement" as far as I know. (I could be wrong though...)

In my opinion, the reason for this was to get women into the workforce which meant that they would compete with men which meant cheaper employees. Also later the vote for women was important for politicians because they knew, women would vote for them, if only they catered to their demands.

The sixties and the invention of the pill put feminism into turbo-mode. Women became more independent but kept a lot of their privileges. ("My body, my choice!") And the economy profited from the collapse of the traditional family: More single households means more appartments and houses, people spend more money to buy crap they don´t need and they need a car (instead of 1 car for the whole family). Single-households generate money and singles are a very valuable target group for companies who want to sell stuff. (Just look how many "single-events" we have today: Dating events for singles, travel agencies who target singles, people go to restaurants instead of cooking their meals at home with the family. The whole dating circus who generates huge amounts of money)

This also generates more tax money and the need for institutions like family court and lawyers, women shelters and other institutions who "take care" of women etc. It´s a billion dollar industry.

And last but not least: "Divide and conquer" has always been very usefull throughout history. Now you can play men against women and it´s easy for politicians to get votes from women if only they press the right buttons.

Just some random thoughts...